But there’s more; you can also use a USB port to host a cellular dongle as a backup Internet connection, or a printer. With the assistance of your articles the new system is now working great (AC66U is on a wired backhaul). Would the RT-AX3000 have the same coverage, or do I need a higher model? Is this one still top dog or are new ones like the Asus RT-AX82U actually better overall? I currently have the Synology RT2600AC as the main router and 2 MR2200AC as nodes. Thoughts? Also, read this post on what you can expect from the USB port. Depending on who is reviewing which one they are both labelled the most bestest super-dooperest ever. Go with the RT-AX92U, Ozzy. I was thinking of getting the AX1100 as my main router and then maybe combine it with a single AX92U node as i need an ethernet port in my study. Your current setup seems pretty good to me — smart move with the Merlin firmware on the T-Mobile router! Dont know if you had experience living with a Synology Mesh network but others online will agree that the RT2600 on its own has very good performance…however, when in a mesh everything goes south. The second floor node would have to be wireless for the foreseeable future. 526Mbps backhaul means you’ll get the same on the front-haul out of the extender, and that’s faster than your Internet speed, I’d assume. Also, not sure why but with two AX routers ping response time / latency is anywhere between 2 and 5 ms, with large standard deviation (noisy). What an incredible contribution you are making here! I guessed these type of router aren’t make specifically for MESH, users should not buy it. Looking at wireless log, it will only connect to wireless band 5GHz-1 at 160MHz bandwith. However, it often happens that we have 2 devices streaming internet video (YouTube, Netflix, HBO…), plus downloading some torrents and, most importantly, copying data back and forth from my Time Capsule (connected via LAN to the router) or another HDD connected via USB to the router. No, you can get the GT-AX11000 or the RT-AX92U. Thanks Dong. I’d go with the former, Mike. You shouldn’t use the Intenet to test Wi-Fi speed, it’s never accurate. Great review, thank you! And this one. Dear Doug, currently I have an ASUS rt ac66r. The 5Gs was excellent. This means the device itself also needs to use two Gigabit ports. AiMesh Node. More ok that here: https://dongknows.com/asus-aimesh-overview/ Also, with wired backhaul almost any router would “play nice”. Possible, yes. I have to say I appreciate the reviews and I am even more impressed that you take the time to everyone’s comments. Most noticeably, though, the new router includes lots of handy features tailored to online gaming. Mixing tri-band and dual-band is always tricky, Genne. Sure, Scott. Thank you again for taking the time to answer my questions. I was always leaning towards the ax11000 but it seems most comparisons showing outperformed by the AX86u somehow. credit to your review on the XT8 too! I hope it clears up. . And it did. Would you say that the Repeater mode I am not a crazy gamer, but Asus doesn’t seem to have many options for higher end triband routers. Had done so. With my existing 1-gigabit plan, what would happen if I connect the cables and activate link aggregation on the router and modem? I am mainly deciding between the AX82U and the AX58U. • In addition we do a fair amount of VR and desktop game play. Nice observation, Ruvim! Make sense? Thanks in advance! Hi Dong! I picked up the RT-AX58U from Best Buy at $160, thinking it was a good deal. But overall, the system delivered speed fast enough to take care of any typical residential broadband connection in full. I was using the RT AC68U.. and it was serving my purpose well…. It just a matter of degrees. Will this keep working if I set up ai-mesh? We lived in Charlotte for a while with the same router without the Mesh points as that house was wired in every house. Looking at a desktop upgrade in the next year. It seems to be just Best Buy being Best Buy. And then, of course, there is a slew of game-related features. More here. If you have a house of 2000 ft² (186 m²) or smaller, it can take care of every corner if placed in the middle. I have moved the router around as much as I can but it doesn’t seem to change anything at all. hi Dong i am so happy i found your website. You mentioned that AIMESH for AX3000 using wireless will get only half performance. I’d go with the former, Mark. When testing the RT-AX3000 solo more than a month ago, I tried it as an AiMesh node with the GT-AX11000, and it worked quite well. But any hardware of the same Wi-Fi standard (5 or 6) will work. For security purposes it has always been turned off on my main router and I do not want to enable it if I do not have to. The house is 3000 sqft with basement. Hi Dong – I love your articles / reviews. No matter what router you use, Mark, a wired connection is always the best for gaming. And manually connect the extender to the 5GHz-2 band. Connected via Ethernet, I’m near 1 gig. Not to mention the looks. That will likely help. Gamer Private Network, on the other hand, allows the router to connect to a game-centric private network powered by WTFast. Options seem to include the ax6100 and the XT-8. However, I just upgraded to 400 Mbps. I experienced the same in my testing via a wireless backhaul, Josh. I have tried turning of AX mode, setting a fixed channel (thats not congested) and ever setting the router the N mode for this band. I haven’t seen a router released in the past 3 years or so that’s actually fast on the 2.4GHz band. I have a question. Just for info. If you want fast speeds out of it in a mesh, you’ll need to use wired backhaul. . Hi Dong. At this point I’m deciding between the AX11000 or the Zen XT8 as an upgrade to my RT-AX58U. Hopefully this would give us some better connectivity in the garden as well for controlling Sonos, lights, etc.. No, Paul. And if you have a large house that’s wired with network cables, get the couple of them to form a real mesh system. Not very good! Since your home is wired, you have lots of options. Thanks! Sorry about all the detail. On top of that, the RT-AX3000 / RT-AX58U also features AiMesh. But, no matter where I am with WiFi, I can’t hit 500 megs. • We can get around 300 MPS down currently. The RT-AX58U services the back of the house plus the back yard. Performance is peachy and I’m really quite happy with it all. If so, disregard answering on both. , Hello Dong, Wired backhaul. Maybe you should tweak it a bit. Consequently, when used with 4×4 clients (there are none now), it can deliver double the speed. But in all, the router has plenty more compared to those of the same physical size and hardware specs. I’m running a wireless backhaul. FYI, wifi clients are using intel AX200 wifi cards. Link Aggregation (also known as NIC Teaming) only works when both the router (or switch) and the end-device (like a NAS server) support the feature. However, I have noticed that at larger distance Deco was delivering considerably higher speeds than Asus. Thanks for the prompt reply – Wired backhaul is not possible in my house – i did ask the builder but he was not up for it! It also includes some nifty networking tools, including the Wake-on-LAN function which will come in handy if you want to turn on a local device via its interface. You’ll waste a band in a wireless setup and there’s no dedicated backhaul band. I decided to set this one up in the same location as the old one to see if there was any difference, and I can say there is with regards to connection quality. Thank you for you help! The Asus GT-AX11000’s web user interface features the ROG theme like the case of the GT-AC5300. With two of my RT-AC68Us, I get -50dBm and 866-1300 Mbps over the same distance (3 wave-1 80MHz AC streams, 433 Mbps/per stream, max. I’m now understanding a bit more the bit in the review about the backhaul but still I’m using it as Asus advertises it should work. And the performance was quite good, too. Why on earth would ASUS create AIMESH that can’t used with WIRELESS MESH? It seems like the clients mostly prefer the one on the second floor, which I feel is because it is placed better than the main router (which is unfortunately in a corner of the house). Thanks Dong, I have just done the ethernet backhaul setup for them with one XT8 as the primary node and both the Ax58u and the other XT8 as nodes. On 5ghz WiFi it averages anywhere from 385 to 444 Mbps download at the farthest point. I’d jump on that in a heartbeat if that’s the case. With a wired backhaul, the ax3000 still deliver wifi6 to wifi 6 devices even if the ac1900 delivers wifi5? Since I’m not there, it’s tough to know exactly, Simi, but if you want to be sure, I’d recommend getting a pair of the RT-AX92U or ZenWiFi AX. Don’t have wired backhaul unfortunately… Don’t have a lot of wifi-6 clients, but want to be ready for that upgrade for the future. I have been waiting for Comcast to roll out the new XB7 Gateway for WiFi 6 in my area, but I am also thinking about getting a GT-AX11000, RT-AX90X, or RAX120. Since they are dual-band routers, there’s no dedicated backhaul band — devices connected to the satellite unit will get slower performances compared to those connected to the router. I know connection quality can vary with the same batch of routers so it might be my old one was a poor sample or the new one is a good one (although the differences are outside of the margin of error in my opinion). If the 89X is enough to cover the entire home, maybe it’s a good idea not to use the 86U, Clif. Generally, you can treat it like any router with a web interface. But you can also mount them on a wall. Both my kids are too. If you have a medium home of round 1800 ft² (167 m²) or smaller, either will be able to take care of it when placed in the middle. What swung me was the great NAS specs it had, so that will be useful. Would you say that the GT-AX11000 has a slightly better range than the RT-AX88U? Some times it requires restarting the router even through it doesn’t show as being offline to fix it. The router is not hard to use, but you do need to know the basics of setting up a home network before you can get the most out of it. It has a ton of useful features and the support for the venerable 160 MHz channel bandwidth. That’s been even worse. Asus Wi-Fi 6 routers need quite a bit of tweaking. Aside from more exclusive gaming features, it would seem like the AX86 is a better overall router at least that is the impression I am getting. 2. Good point, Ken. is it good time to buy them. The Asus GT-AX11000 is enormous for a reason. But in the end I do prioritize performance and reliability over everything else, even if I have to do some initial tweaking. I had the same problem in the beginning used of the router. Thanks. Well, after being a Netgear customer for as long as I can remember, I have just made the leap to ASUS. Thanks again, Greetings Dong Its huge ROG logo light on top is self-evident — the light syncs its color with other ROG gears that support Asus’s Aura RGB. They were started with the slogan "Rock Solid. I would like to replace the RT3200 router with the Asus RT-AC88U and use the AX3000, as a wired node. Also, can you tell me which antennas on the unit are for which band or are there no dedicated antenna for any one band. However my 2.4ghz band seems to be really inconsistent with speeds ranging from 100mbps down to 1-2mpbs or even less. Also, there was no difference between Wi-Fi 5 and Wi-Fi 6 clients. Both routers take the shape of a traditional design, with four antennas sticking up from its back. Go with tri-band hardware throughout if you want optimal performance. I’m also not sure if the Intel Chipset will be better than the Broadcom Chipset? Hoping you can help. Dong I am in the market for a new router and would prefer a Tri-band model so I can isolate both kids activity to independent 5GHz bands (less complaining hopefully). If not, a tri-band system is a must. Thanks. I was considering the Zen mesh setup but it seems like the above routers would be a better, long-term solution. Thanks for sharing your experience! Just get them work and leave them manage things by themselves. And this is where the GT-AX11000 is decidedly better than the RT-AX88U. Considering there are currently only 2×2 Wi-Fi 6 clients, the Asus RT-AX3000 / RT-AX58U fits in the sweet spot where it will deliver the best bang for your buck, thanks to the rich feature set. Note: Initially, at its launch early this year, the GT-AX11000 was quite buggy. Went with 2 AX3000s. As you can imagine, my current D-link is not very happy about it, so everything get really slow. I was looking at an RT-AX3000 for a 1400 sqft condo, but with rooms on three levels. It may contain what is found on a physical HDD, such as disk partitions and a file system, which in turn can contain files and folders. Now, I almost decided buying Linksys EA9300, as I read it has really good network storage performance, but then I read this AX3000 review of yours and now I can’t make a decision. Not wall mountable: The router is enormous, and the fact that you can’t mount it means it’s going to be tough to find a place to put it. Any advice would be great here ! Hi Dong, enjoy your reviews. And that’s good timing since I’ve just been able to acquire some Wi-Fi 6 clients to put it to the test. Hey man. I set the router to reboot every early morning before 6 am, to try to prevent strange problems, so I’m rather miffed by this. Bottom-line is, the amount of devices you have there is not enough to justify the need for a tri-band router (a dual-band will do just fine). Is the faster CPU in the AX12 an indication that it would be better in an congested environment? It works, but can be buggy. What’s important, however, is the fact the two are of exactly the same hardware. There have been ZERO issues while running just the 89X just don’t know why so many problems once the mesh is being set up. 3. I like the Asus more in terms of web interface and the fact that it doesn’t require user account. So getting the RT-AX1800 as a node will work out technically, but for the best result, you need to use a network cable to connect the two. You won’t regret it. I’m stuck between the AX11000 and NETGEAR Nighthawk Pro Gaming 6-Stream WiFi 6 Router (XR1000) – AX5400 | DumaOS 3.0 ..I am a pretty big gaming enthusiast, play a lot of online games. I was expecting it to be similar, or that the C4000 would be better. But the XD4 is a great option, too, if you have wired backhaul. More on that here. This set up is replacing the two Apple Airport Extremes I’ve been using for years. I need to replace the router in my home. Hi Reeshard, CAT5e (or better) is fine. It has more features and is much more intuitive than the TP-Link. Trying to get the Router set up, was looking at the Asus Zen XT8 Mesh but didn’t like some of the comments here, if not the ASUS RT-AX56U as a access point/ai mesh extender, what other router would u recommend with the AX11000 in AI Mesh mode? Then, that helps me a lot with my decision. There are all the settings you can ask for, including but not limited to an interactive network map, convenient IP reservation, port forwarding, Dynamic DNS, IPv6, Guest networks (one for each band), Traffic Analyzer, so on and so forth. In your opinion, would it be beneficial / worth the cost to go with an AX88u or AX89X as the “primary” (and keeping two AX3000’s) or would 3 AX3000s give us both the breadth / speed of coverage (assuming hardwire backbone and decent placement for coverage)? It’s getting a bit older and think it maybe starting to have some issues. Fiber is one of them. For more, check out this post. I’m not exactly a hardcore gamer, but I tried out all these features with a couple of games, and they worked. If you have a fast enough Internet connection for the number of concurrent devices, your streaming should be OK. Hi Dong- I am not a gamer, but heavy on streaming, and my wife and I both work from home, so we have have a lot of network traffic in our house. Open NAT allows for quickly setting up port forwarding for up to 32 clients on the network based on a particular game and the type of game console, be it an Xbox, a PlayStation, or a computer. Great info as usual; decided to go with the AX11000, but had a question about IoT devices. Stuff that dual-band routers, like the Netgear RAX120 or even the Asus RT-AX88U, can’t deliver. In most cases though, that is not necessary. They ALWAYS need to have their OWN model number for certain products so they don’t have to price match other competitors. By the way, the two also worked well via a wired backhaul. Do you have a reccomendation between the ax6100 and the xt8 to mesh with the ax11000 on a wired network? I will like to buy an other one because my house have 3 floors. Would you recommend another Asus RT-AC86U or Asus RT-AX3000? After reading a bit more the best choice is to go either 2band or 3band and not mix together. -most of my devices/laptop are normal WIFI 5, with only 1 WIFI 6 laptop. These weren’t terrible, and faster than the Netgear RAX40, or the TP-Link Archer AX50. I am primarily a gamer. I feel you, Guy. And if you wonder which to get — in case you have the option to pick — either will do. If your answer is yes do you have recommendations to override the default settings? It’s hard to take pictures of the Asus GT-AX11000. It’s unclear if the AX3000 and 58U are identical or different still until someone actually opens up a standard AX-3000. That said, if you live in a small home and want to upgrade to Wi-Fi 6, either of the two is an excellent choice. Is it possible to use it in a private environment? It was confusing the naming for me since the RT-AX3000 is also an RT-AX58U. For me, I felt that the 2.4Gs are rather weak compared to some of the other ASUS routers. As far as I know, where I live, WAN Aggregation, as well as Dual-WAN, is generally not available from the ISPs. If Internet speed is what you care about, you’ll experience no improvement at all upgrading to Wi-Fi 6 now, YiJia. Both are very different from the Cisco 9117, which will work out just fine for any environment if you know how to configure it (and don’t mind the cost. No, on the WiFi settings of the 89X, Clif. All my Intel clients are now connected to the node at 2.4 Gbps. For regular home users, the Asus GT-AX11000 is overkill. Make sure you use Auto for all value and turn off NSS. For more check out this post. And yes, if you’re going to use wired backhaul, you can get away with getting a more affordable set, including the ZenWiFi AX Mini, or a pair of RT-AX3000. I’m a noob when it comes to this wireless networking thing and surely there is something that I haven’t configured properly. Did they improve with latest software. Thanks And just to be sure, I can get a pair of RT-AX92U at the same price of two AX-3000. I’ve received pricing in South Africa for the TP-Link AX50 and ASUS RT-AX58U. I hadn't planned on getting a Wi-Fi 6 router but this one was a great price so I went ahead and tried it. And that will continue to be so for a while. So only the basement one would be wired to the main one. Which Asus tri-band model would you recommend to build a mesh with this router please. I get over 500 Mbps directly connected to the arris sb8200 modem, and over 500 Mbps directly connected to the ethernet ports on asus router. You can start out with an Asus AiMesh router and add more later. That’s not to mention it’s a Wi-Fi 6 one. LOL, Glad you’re here, David. and range worst? This feature is my favorite. The router looks even more massive with the antennas attached. This combination has been running for a a month in now and we’ve had zero issues running with Wifi 5 clients. I have a PC with WiFi6 and a 2.5G Ethernet port built in, and a Synology Diskstation 718+ NAS in my office (where the cable comes into the house), and then a 4K TV and various consoles/streaming devices in a nearby living room. Or something completely different? The router 86u is high near the ceiling top in the center of house. I am very afraid that my two Squeezebox Radios will not work with it, just like the XT8….but we shall see. In summary: as far as I’m concerned, the AC68U (or a 2nd wave AC router if they are still available – unfortunately their prices were not dropping before they disappeared from the market as “new”) still gives the best bang for the buck (at least for me, using identical pairs as repeaters), especially with it’s price dropping (it has stabilized and even increased a bit recently – I guess people realized how robust and relatively cheap they are). Apparently this issue has been present for 5+ years, and one hack is to disable key rotation, but that’s a security hazard, so a no-go for me. The RT-AC88U is generally more stable than the GT-AX11000. I had in fact had waited for hours together once the set up finished, and it did not show up. 500 Mbps is definitely more than enough but I find it odd that the Wifi 6 speeds are the same as the AC speeds. Yes, Mark. I mentioned that in the review of the RT-AX89X. The former is a QoS engine that quickly prioritizes Internet traffic for different services, including online gaming (default). You might want to back up the settings, reset the router to default and restore the settings. I upgraded it and it seems to work better. But after reading your info, I’ve now jumped ship to ASUS GT-AX11000. I realize the AX1100 might be over kill but i will still have 8+ devices connected. Also, I had a bit of a hard time getting my clients to connect at the full 2.4Gbps speed consistently. I am new to setting up Routers and my current one has a port for the fiber optic. now i am planning on getting the ax3000 … will you consider this as getting something equal or an upgrade or downgrade ? On the open NAT menu there is no pre set profile for xbox live. I will have to go wireless aimesh with 2 nodes. I just upgraded to gig speed from my isp. I’m happy. Reeshard. I read that the ax11000 VPN features and option that allow you to select if a client can use or bypass the VPN, do you know if the ax88u have this option? I’m looking for a new router and can’t decide for the ax88 or ax11000 and wanted to check with you one option that I’m looking for: I only have one computer that is capable of wifi 6, everything else I have is wifi 5 (phones, tablet, Apple TV 4K, smart plugs). Maybe a future firmware will fix that. My question is there some tweak or is the wifi call issue just a reality with mesh networking? I actually meant to write “AX3000”. My 1-gigabit plan supports WAN bonding and I just turned it on. That depends on your place, Scott. How do I install the Asus system, as I can’t bypass the Uverse modem? I bought a ax11000 to my cm1000 modem and only get tops 160 or speed at close range 5g. Hi Dong. Is that normat? Is the AX92U worth the upgrade? Hi Dong, I just bought a RT-AX58U but saw I could get a RT-AX92U slightly cheaper. Thank you for your input, Dong. With GT-AX11000 as my main router and AX58U and AC88U as a node, both nodes will not connect to dedicated wireless backhaul if I set the wireless band 5GHz-2 manually to channel bandwith 160MHz. I am pretty sure the RT-AX3000 and the RT-AX58U are the same devices minus the WPA3 support for the former. Here in the UK, you can get the AX92U in a pair or even the XT8. If that persists, you need a replacement. Hi dong, am currently running ac66u b1 and planning to setup AI mesh with ax56. In this case, you might need to manually change some settings, like port-forwarding, (which you should know how to do anyway) for certain setups to work. Specifically, from a connected computer, just point a browser to the router’s default IP address (192.168.50.1) or router.asus.com, and you’ll run into a wizard that walks you through the process step by step. I have turned on “optimised for xbox”, game mode, gear acceleration but nothing works.
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